Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/19/1994 08:00 AM House STA

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  HB 389 - INCREASED PENALTIES FOR JOY RIDING                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 389, Sponsored by  REPRESENTATIVE                   
  JIM NORDLUND and Co-Sponsored by REPRESENTATIVE DAVID                        
  FINKELSTEIN, for discussion.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 489                                                                   
                                                                               
  DENNIS POSHARD, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE JIM NORDLUND, gave the                 
  sponsor statement for HB 389.  He apologized for                             
  REPRESENTATIVE NORDLUND not being in attendance due to a                     
  prior personal commitment.  He stated HB 389 amends the                      
  criminal statutes to increase the penalties for joy riding.                  
  The current penalty for the first offense, Criminal Mischief                 
  III (a class A misdemeanor), would be changed to Criminal                    
  Mischief II (a class C felony).  He stated the penalty for a                 
  second offense, Criminal Mischief II, would be changed to                    
  Criminal Mischief I (a class B felony).                                      
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD stated HB 389 was introduced because of the                      
  increase in auto theft and the lack of convictions.  Current                 
  laws allow many offenders to plea down to the lesser offense                 
  of joy riding.                                                               
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD noted about 500 incidents per year of joy                        
  riding.  In 1993, only 99 cases were prosecuted, of which                    
  the vast majority were misdemeanors.  Only two cases went to                 
  trial on a contested basis.  In most cases the defendants                    
  plead guilty, or the charges were dropped in exchange for a                  
  plea of guilty to a lesser charge of driving while                           
  intoxicated or of theft.                                                     
                                                                               
  (REPRESENTATIVE SANDERS and ULMER rejoined the meeting at                    
  9:27 a.m.)                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD stated Anchorage Assembly members brought this                   
  problem to their attention.  A theft charge requires someone                 
  to have the intent to deprive someone of their property.  He                 
  stated the intent is what is difficult to proved, therefore                  
  it is easier to allow the defendant to plea down to the                      
  charge of joy riding.  Increasing the penalty for joy riding                 
  will help decrease the rising number of vehicles stolen and                  
  the tremendous dollar loss suffered by insurance companies                   
  and the victims of auto theft.  He stated HB 389 is heavily                  
  supported by the Anchorage Police Department.                                
                                                                               
  Number 541                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated HB 389 was deleting some wording and                   
  replacing it with very similar wording.                                      
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD clarified HB 389 would change the penalty for                    
  joy riding from Criminal Mischief III to Criminal Mischief                   
  II.                                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 550                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY turned to Section 1 and stated currently, to                  
  be under Criminal Mischief II there has to be damage to the                  
  vehicle or expenses incurred by the owner.  HB 389 would                     
  make the penalty Criminal Mischief II regardless of whether                  
  there are any expenses incurred by the owner.                                
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD stated CHAIRMAN VEZEY was correct.  He replied                   
  the drafter of HB 389 felt this would be the cleanest way to                 
  make the change.                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 559                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY read page 2, beginning with line 8, "(b)                      
  Except as provided in (c) of this section, criminal                          
  [CRIMINAL] mischief in the second degree is a class C                        
  felony."  He stated the exception under (c) provides a class                 
  B felony if a person has a prior conviction.                                 
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 570                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated in Section 3 of HB 389, criminal                       
  mischief III would still be a misdemeanor, but the                           
  exceptions in subsection (c) would be deleted.  He asked for                 
  an explanation.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 575                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD explained Section 3 was a conforming amendment                   
  that deletes the exception for the joy riding provision                      
  referring to if the damage was less than $500.                               
                                                                               
  Number 579                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated the question was over AS 11.46.484.                    
                                                                               
  Number 596                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD clarified Section 3, "[EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN (c)                 
  OF THIS SECTION,...]," refers back to Section 2, "the person                 
  drives, tows away, or takes the propelled vehicle of                         
  another."  He noted Section 1 (4),"[THE PERSON DRIVES, TOWS                  
  AWAY, OR TAKES THE PROPELLED VEHICLE OF ANOTHER...]," was                    
  deleted.  Therefore, Section 3 is the conforming amendment                   
  deleting exemption which directly referred to the language                   
  in Section 1(4).                                                             
                                                                               
  Number 607                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated the activity described under criminal                  
  mischief III is being classified as a class A misdemeanor,                   
  even though the existing statute provides it will be a class                 
  C felony if there were prior convictions.  He felt HB 389                    
  would be deleting the stipulation that under certain                         
  circumstances the offense could be a felony.  He believed HB
  389 made a violation of AS 11.46.484 a class A misdemeanor                   
  and would it not be a felony if was a repeat offense as                      
  described in Section 2(c).                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 620                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD clarified criminal mischief III would no longer                  
  be a penalty for joy riding or theft of an automobile                        
  because the language was deleted.                                            
                                                                               
  Number 624                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER made clear MR. POSHARD was referring to                 
  page 2, lines 20-21.                                                         
                                                                               
  (REPRESENTATIVE OLBERG and SANDERS left the meeting at 9:36                  
  a.m.)                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 634                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD stated there may some language left in AS                        
  11.46.484 which may need to be deleted.  He noticed Section                  
  2 would allow for criminal mischief III to still be a                        
  misdemeanor.  He noted this was not the intent when HB 389                   
  was drafted.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 643                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER commented confusion arises because all                  
  of the provisions of AS 11.46.484 are not seen in HB 389.                    
  She referenced AS 11.46.484(b) in Section 3, line 20, which                  
  deletes [EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN (c)...].  She clarified AS                    
  11.46.484(c) includes the provisions of the joy riding                       
  statute which is being deleted on page 1 of HB 389.                          
                                                                               
  Number 650                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated page 1 is deleting wording in AS                       
  11.46.482.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 651                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER agreed with CHAIRMAN VEZEY.  She                        
  responded AS 11.46.482 is referenced within AS 11.46.484 in                  
  the statute.  AS 11.46.482(a)(4) which is deleted in HB 389                  
  is embraced within AS 11.46.484 as an exception to the class                 
  A misdemeanor.  Therefore, the language must be deleted to                   
  make it no longer a misdemeanor.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 661                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he understood REPRESENTATIVE ULMER's                   
  clarification; however, he felt it did explain the changes                   
  to the other three sub-subsections of paragraph 3.  He                       
  stated under current law AS 11.46.484(a)(2) would also be a                  
  felony, but HB 389 would change it to a class A misdemeanor.                 
                                                                               
  Number 666                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER responded the structure of the language                 
  in AS 11.46.484(b) provides an exception to it being a                       
  misdemeanor.  Section (c) is being removed because HB 389 is                 
  changing the definition of the offense by deleting                           
  subsection (4).  She believed the drafter was correct.                       
                                                                               
  Number 674                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented more work would have to be done on                  
  Section 3, but not at this time.  He inquired about Section                  
  4.                                                                           
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD replied Section 4 was a conforming amendment to                  
  AS 11.46.486(a).  The reference to AS 11.46.484(a)(2) was                    
  being deleted on page 3, line 1.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 692                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY inquired about Section 5.                                     
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD replied Section 5 deleted another reference to                   
  AS 11.46.482(a)(4) on line 4, page 3.  On page 3, line 3,                    
  the word "third" is replaced with "second" to comply with                    
  the intent of HB 389.                                                        
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-35, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified that Section 5 was a housekeeping                   
  measure.  He asked about Section 6.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 015                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD replied Section 6 dealt with sentencing.                         
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated Section 6 would mandate a minimum                      
  sentence.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 019                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD agreed with CHAIRMAN VEZEY.  The misdemeanor                     
  charge would be changed to a felony charge.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 043                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER referred to the "Assumptions" section                   
  on page 2 of the Department of Corrections' fiscal note.  It                 
  states, "The Municipality of Anchorage, which has its own                    
  `joy riding' law now, prosecutes an additional 35 such cases                 
  per year...  It is assumed that the bill would have the                      
  effect of converting all the Municipality misdemeanor cases                  
  into State felony cases."  She asked if this effect has been                 
  discussed.  She was concerned about the statewide trend of                   
  all misdemeanor cases not being prosecuted at the municipal                  
  level, thereby leaving the state to "pick up the bag."                       
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD said he could not comment because they have not                  
  spoken with the prosecutor's office for the municipality of                  
  Anchorage.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 072                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER stated it would be worthwhile to find                   
  out their intentions as to whether or not they plan to                       
  continue to prosecute joy riding violations as misdemeanors.                 
  If the municipality of Anchorage did intend to continue,                     
  Department of Corrections may be able to down scale their                    
  fiscal note and reduce the state financial impact.                           
                                                                               
  Number 086                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he would like to see how much actual                   
  property damage is involved in joy riding.  If $1.5 million                  
  were to be spent on the incarceration of offenders, their                    
  cost to society should also be examined.                                     
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD answered he did not know how much damage is done                 
  statewide, but he did have figures for Anchorage.  Over the                  
  past 5 years, approximately $51 million dollars in vehicles                  
  had been taken, of which nearly $6 million have never been                   
  recovered.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 108                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented those items not recovered would not                 
  fall under the statute referred to in HB 389.  Those items                   
  would be designated under theft.                                             
                                                                               
  Number 110                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD affirmed CHAIRMAN VEZEY.  He stated they contend                 
  that increasing the penalty for joy riding would also reduce                 
  theft because they would now both be carrying a felony                       
  charge.  He noted many of the vehicles involved in joy                       
  riding do end up with damage to them.  This proposes an                      
  added cost to insurance companies and victims.                               
                                                                               
  Number 129                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY mentioned the fine connected with the charge                  
  of joy riding and the possibility of short-term jail time                    
  for those convicted.  He stated the loss of a driver's                       
  license could be considered as a penalty for joy riding in                   
  HB 389.  He commented most people convicted of joy riding do                 
  not get jail time and may or may not pay their fine;                         
  however, they still have their license intact.                               
                                                                               
  Number 159                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. POSHARD responded CHAIRMAN VEZEY's assumptions about                     
  those individuals who commonly joy ride were correct.                        
  Regarding license revocation, he stated REPRESENTATIVE                       
  NORDLUND was open to changes on HB 389.  HB 389 was meant to                 
  facilitate discussion on different means to curb joy riding.                 
                                                                               
  Number 177                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, hearing no more questions, held HB 389 in                    
  committee for further review.  He asked MR. POSHARD to ask                   
  REPRESENTATIVE NORDLUND to examine Section 3, therewith a                    
  sponsor statement could be provided in explanation.  He was                  
  not convinced that the penalty in Section 3 was not being                    
  reduced.                                                                     
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, having no more business before the                           
  committee, adjourned the meeting at 9:54 a.m.                                
                                                                               

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